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URGENT - MoT test on Sunday
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DocDelete
2003-08-21 15:12:04 UTC
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I'm picking up a car on Sunday and in order to keep it all legal I need to
book an MoT inspection for the end of the journey (yes, *and* actually turn
up for the test!) - does anyone know of a garage that'll do tests on a
Sunday, in Birmingham / Midlands?

Ta.

PS I've tried Nationwide Autocentres, AA/Halfords, Kwikfit et al but even
though they advertise as "open seven days" none of the buggers do MoTs on
Sunday.
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Conor
2003-08-21 15:17:34 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
I'm picking up a car on Sunday and in order to keep it all legal I need to
book an MoT inspection for the end of the journey (yes, *and* actually turn
up for the test!) - does anyone know of a garage that'll do tests on a
Sunday, in Birmingham / Midlands?
Ta.
AFAIK they're not allowed to.
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DocDelete
2003-08-21 15:44:32 UTC
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Post by Conor
AFAIK they're not allowed to.
That would explain a lot - though none phoned so far have said as much.

That leaves the question: why not?
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DocDelete
2003-08-21 15:55:46 UTC
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Post by Conor
AFAIK they're not allowed to.
"At Scotlands Ash we aim to make MOT testing as easy as possible for you, to
this end we are open from 6:30am on weekdays, 8:00am on Saturday and will
even carry out MOT tests on Sunday 9:00am to 12:00 noon."

http://www.scotlandsashgarage.co.uk
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Graham
2003-08-23 13:32:40 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
I'm picking up a car on Sunday and in order to keep it all legal I need to
book an MoT inspection for the end of the journey (yes, *and* actually turn
up for the test!) - does anyone know of a garage that'll do tests on a
Sunday, in Birmingham / Midlands?
Ta.
AFAIK they're not allowed to.
Nope there is no rule. An MOT station could do testing 24 hours a day,
every day of the week if they wanted to.

Graham
Alan
2003-08-21 15:24:10 UTC
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Sorry I can't help but I do have a question.

Why do you want the test at the need of the journey?

If it has already expired you will need the test at the beginning of the
journey. You are allowed to drive a car without a current MOT but only to
the NEAREST MOT test centre. I presume you could argue nearest OPEN MOT
centre on a Sunday but only within reason.

If it expires the next day can't you book one for 8.00 the following morning
at the NEAREST test centre to your home?
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MeatballTurbo
2003-08-21 15:43:51 UTC
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Post by Alan
If it expires the next day can't you book one for 8.00 the following morning
at the NEAREST test centre to your home?
Can't it be any pre-booked MOT?
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MeatballTurbo
2003-08-21 15:54:52 UTC
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Post by MeatballTurbo
Can't it be any pre-booked MOT?
"There is one exception, an unlicensed vehicle, provided it is insured, may
be driven to and from a testing station for a pre-booked compulsory MOT
test."
From the DVLA website - no mention of NEAREST then me buckos!
Thought so.

I assume because not all stations can (or will test all vehicles).
Some only test bikes.
others can't do 3 wheels (had that in the past), and some aren't geared
up to do trucks etc.
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Richard
2003-08-21 16:10:51 UTC
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"There is one exception, an unlicensed vehicle, provided it is insured, may
be driven to and from a testing station for a pre-booked compulsory MOT
test."
From the DVLA website - no mention of NEAREST then me buckos!
I refer m'learned friend to section 29 of the 1994 Act, "A vehicle is
[exempt from displaying a valid vehicle excise duty disk] when it is
being used solely for the purpose of - (a) submitting it (by previous
arrangement for a specified date) for a compulsory test, or (b) bringing
it away from a compulsory test."

I fear "solely for the purpose of" does not include ferrying it from
vendor to purchaser. However, why not prebook a test on Monday and
arrange with the garage to leave it with them (on their forecourt, not
in the street) from Sunday, keys through the letterbox or something?
Then you can be all legal and pick it up Monday.
DocDelete
2003-08-21 16:56:08 UTC
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Post by Richard
I fear "solely for the purpose of" does not include ferrying it from
vendor to purchaser. However, why not prebook a test on Monday and
arrange with the garage to leave it with them (on their forecourt, not
in the street) from Sunday, keys through the letterbox or something?
Then you can be all legal and pick it up Monday.
Thanks for that, damned fine idea - but I think I'm in the same "sorry guv"
territory for getting an MoT done on "Bank Holiday" Monday too ;-(
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DocDelete
2003-08-21 16:57:53 UTC
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Post by Richard
I fear "solely for the purpose of" does not include ferrying it from
vendor to purchaser. However, why not prebook a test on Monday and
arrange with the garage to leave it with them (on their forecourt, not
in the street) from Sunday, keys through the letterbox or something?
Then you can be all legal and pick it up Monday.
I'm beginning to think metal tow-rod, trailer plate and light bar, and
less-than-happy wife co-driver here...
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Richard
2003-08-21 17:01:20 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
I'm beginning to think metal tow-rod, trailer plate and light bar, and
less-than-happy wife co-driver here...
Sorry to put a spanner in the works here too, but it has to be an
all-wheels-off-the-ground tow (ie, a flatbed or trailer) if it's
uninsured.

R.
DocDelete
2003-08-21 17:14:24 UTC
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Post by Richard
Sorry to put a spanner in the works here too, but it has to be an
all-wheels-off-the-ground tow (ie, a flatbed or trailer) if it's
uninsured.
I'm covered in this regard - a small nominal £15 for the day on my regular
insurance.
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Autolycus
2003-08-21 17:35:56 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
I'm beginning to think metal tow-rod, trailer plate and light bar, and
less-than-happy wife co-driver here...
Sorry to put a spanner in the works here too, but it has to be an
all-wheels-off-the-ground tow (ie, a flatbed or trailer) if it's
uninsured.
Not a question of insurance - it's either a car, or a trailer: if it's a
car, it needs an MoT, if it's a trailer, it needs a proper coupling and
automatic brakes, etc. Then you have to think about the maker's towing
limit for your car.

The trailer stuff doesn't apply to genuine "recovery of mechanically
disabled vehicles". I doubt whether sophistry would get you far if push
came to shove.

If your car's up to it - hire a trailer, if not, think in terms of £1
per one-way mile to someone with the right kit.


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Conor
2003-08-23 13:02:46 UTC
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Post by MeatballTurbo
Can't it be any pre-booked MOT?
"There is one exception, an unlicensed vehicle, provided it is insured, may
be driven to and from a testing station for a pre-booked compulsory MOT
test."
From the DVLA website - no mention of NEAREST then me buckos!
However there is a part int he RTA about the vehicle being fit for use
on the road.
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MeatballTurbo
2003-08-23 17:47:06 UTC
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Post by Conor
However there is a part int he RTA about the vehicle being fit for use
on the road.
However, no MOT does not mean it is unfit for the road, just as having
an MOT does not mean it is.

One of the sales guys at work is quite proud that his last 3 cars have
never had MOTs and he must have spent something like £150k to do it.
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Richard Kilpatrick
2003-08-23 17:11:46 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
I'm picking up a car on Sunday and in order to keep it all legal I need to
book an MoT inspection for the end of the journey (yes, *and* actually turn
up for the test!) - does anyone know of a garage that'll do tests on a
Sunday, in Birmingham / Midlands?
Just a little warning - if you do this, don't stop en route. Drive from
where the car is to the MOT station, no stops (I suspect fuel would be
okay). Just in case. If you stop for five minutes to get a sandwich, you
could potentially be done.

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Richard
2003-08-26 08:11:04 UTC
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Post by Richard Kilpatrick
Just a little warning - if you do this, don't stop en route. Drive from
where the car is to the MOT station, no stops (I suspect fuel would be
okay). Just in case. If you stop for five minutes to get a sandwich, you
could potentially be done.
Secretary of State for Transport vs Richards (1998)

Almost exactly this: Richards was taking his car for a pre-booked MOT
and stopped en route for cigarettes. During the ten minutes he was in
the shop, he was reported for no VED. Magistrates convicted him;
Richards appealed, Crown Court reversed the decision and acquitted him
(basically on the grounds of common sense); SoS4T appealed, Appeal Court
upheld the CC's decision.
DocDelete
2003-08-26 10:19:32 UTC
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Post by Richard
Secretary of State for Transport vs Richards (1998)
Almost exactly this: Richards was taking his car for a pre-booked MOT
and stopped en route for cigarettes. During the ten minutes he was in
the shop, he was reported for no VED. Magistrates convicted him;
Richards appealed, Crown Court reversed the decision and acquitted him
(basically on the grounds of common sense); SoS4T appealed, Appeal Court
upheld the CC's decision.
Which is a reasonable precedent - taken to the extreme, would he have been
convicted if he'd stopped for a piss? Jeez.

Anyway, thanks to all for sage counsel and wisdom. Clearly, though, no-one
knows of an outfit in the Midlands that does MoTs on a Sunday. To add to
this, I spoke to my father at the weekend (who lives in Fife) who knows of
at least two garages there that oblige (one in Methil, one in Kirkcaldy) -
so it wasn't *that* unreasonable a question ;-)

Car retrieved via driving back - documents in car: insurance cover note,
receipt for purchase, phone number of garage I was aiming to leave the car
at over Sunday and Monday nights, no stopping, no erratic "hello I'm here"
driving.

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Dan405
2003-08-23 21:59:29 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
PS I've tried Nationwide Autocentres, AA/Halfords, Kwikfit et al but even
though they advertise as "open seven days" none of the buggers do MoTs on
Sunday.
I didnt think that MoT stations could date it for renewal on a sunday?
When
i've seen an MoT done its always had the monday put down (or saturday,
cant
remember which) if a year time fell on a sunday.
Alternatively you could just drive it home and risk it, unless of course
the
car is a complete wreck or you drive like a tit you're unlikely to get
pulled over.
Aye, thats what i'd do :) Just gently tootle home, stick on my drive, then
take it for an MOT on Tuesday (Monday being a BH).
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Bill
2003-08-26 14:12:07 UTC
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Post by DocDelete
I'm picking up a car on Sunday and in order to keep it all legal I need to
book an MoT inspection for the end of the journey (yes, *and* actually turn
up for the test!) - does anyone know of a garage that'll do tests on a
Sunday, in Birmingham / Midlands?
Ta.
PS I've tried Nationwide Autocentres, AA/Halfords, Kwikfit et al but even
though they advertise as "open seven days" none of the buggers do MoTs on
Sunday.
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MOTs can be done anyday as long as the garage opens for normal service on
that day..............this is the year 2003.

Bill
Elizabeth Hall
2003-09-09 14:51:24 UTC
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Have you tried more local independent garages. Several of our customers do
MOT's on Sundays by appointment in Milton Keynes where I live and we find
the independents offer a better and more flexible service.
Liz
Autopro Tools in Milton Keynes.
Post by DocDelete
I'm picking up a car on Sunday and in order to keep it all legal I need to
book an MoT inspection for the end of the journey (yes, *and* actually turn
up for the test!) - does anyone know of a garage that'll do tests on a
Sunday, in Birmingham / Midlands?
Ta.
PS I've tried Nationwide Autocentres, AA/Halfords, Kwikfit et al but even
though they advertise as "open seven days" none of the buggers do MoTs on
Sunday.
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